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As disciples of Jesus Christ we are to be Holy For He is Holy. The church needs to be cleansed, restored, and healed. We are living in a critical time in the eyes of the world are upon us. Sin has been exposed within the ranks of the church and the world is watching to see how we deal with it. Will we allow sin to remain, or will we take a firm stand against it?

The real issue facing the Body of Christ today is not how we are to deal with those who have sinned, but what we are going to do about the sin which we have allowed to infiltrate and pollute the Church. The shaking we are experiencing within the church is not over. The Church of Jesus Christ is going to go through the greatest siftings process to bring forth all true believers.

The spirit-filled people will be clearly noted from all other people in the world-those who want to move of God and so-called compromisers. We are entering into a time of spiritual cleansing and purging within the church in final preparation before Jesus returns. God is going to separate and set aside a holy people by the Spirit of God searching hearts to reveal, convict and praying to repentance all those who are allowed sin to remain in their lives. Christ is going to purge and cleanse His Church.

Malachi prophesied (Malachi 3:3).

And he shall set as a refiner and purifier of silver ; and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord an offering a righteousness.

We're going to pass through His refining fire. All that is unholy and on unacceptable to Him----will be burned up.

To compromise and lukewarmness we have allowed sin to infiltrate the church. Christians (so -called) are following after their own ungodly desires. Their hearts and minds are filled with lust towards members of the opposite sex  (even same-sex), their hearts are filled with covetousness and worldliness. There is bitterness and resentment in their hearts, and many are holding unforgiveness and harboring spirits of ill-will towards others. It is hard now to distinguish between the unbeliever and those who are processing to be born-again Christians.

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  • You speak my friend as though the refining will separate the sheep from the goats within the church, however is it not true to say that the whole church is in need of refining on a corporate level?

    The whole church in its various denominations seems to be either in disobedience or in compromise, or both.  Most all denominations totally deny the creation account of Genesis one, as I keep saying, we ignore the holy days and feasts that God ordained, and choose to celebrate man concocted feasts that mostly mimic the pagan feasts.  Some churches continue to worship idols and pay homage to ancient religions and their artifacts, whilst using pagan symbols.  

    Within those congregations there are always some who hold to the faith, but the many tend to tow the official line of the denomination and believe that the thoughts of man are inerrant.  As a classic case, a few years ago the Anglican bishops decided that because so many people in the 'world' rejected the creation then it must be true and adopted the stance that would be more acceptable to the world.  They decided that TE (theistic evolution) was the way to appease both God and man.  Never mind that the issue of a perfect creation is the very basis of our faith and without it all else becomes a meaningless lie.  It is more a matter of where the church stands than where each individual stands, because it maybe that the church is condemning people with its false teaching.

    • Hello Dr. Derek

      Please enlighten me. Most Churches celebrate Christmas (which most know has pagan origins), but what can you say about its celebrations today that is done in right motives and taking every chance to minister to the poor and spread the Gospel?

      Some churches here in Mindoro, Philippines are celebrating the feats of the Jews. Are we commanded to celebrate them now?

      Please do enlighten me. I am willing to listen.

      Thanks a lot.

      • Hi Francis, thanks for asking this question, the answer is a simple one.  Throughout the Old Testament we find God ordaining and blessing various holy-days and feasts, mainly commemorating His works, the purpose of which is to remind His people of His greatness.  When we get into the New Testament we find that these feasts and holy-days continue to be observed.  No only did Jesus celebrate these days, but the Christians of the first to fourth centuries continued to celebrate and observe them.  It was Jesus' wish that the next time He ate (when He returned) He would eat the Passover Feast with His [then] disciples, us.  Why would Jesus (Yahweh) say this if He had not wanted us to continue to observe God's (His) ordained feast days.  There has been no ordinance form God to change these feasts and the abandonment of the Jewish holy-days can be traced to several human factors.  Antisemitism is a prominent reason, to divorce the Church from the Jews, in Galatians 3:28 it tells us that "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."   From this we can take it the we are one with the Jews, in this verse Strong's dictionary suggests that the word 'Greek' denotes a 'non-Jew'.  Also in Galatians 3:29 we are told: "And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise." How much more Jewish could we be, to be classed as 'Abraham’s offspring'? 
        Yes we should still be observing the holy-days of the Old Testament, because we are one  with the Jews, no ordinance has superseded God's instructions to observe them, Jesus and His disciples observed them for over three-hundred years, and expected us to observe them.  Most of our present Christian feasts were and are pagan both in date and in observance, look what has happened to the modern Christmas, a celebration of commercialism and orgy.

        • Okay, thanks Dr, Derek.

          Pls explain to me:

          1) Matt 26:29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom. 

          Is this verse related?

          2) Romans 14, whole Chapter - is this related to the observance of those feasts?

          Thanks. I'll wait.

          • The Matthew 26:29 verse refers to the Last Supper and applies to our holy communion, which Jesus does not make into a command, just that we should remember Him whenever we eat or drink.  This has nothing to do with observing holy-days.

            Romans 14 starts of by Paul talking about not judging people for doing certain things, and v5 talks about one person esteeming one day against another.  The word translated 'esteems' is the Greek word 'krino' which means many things according to context, however in this case the prime meaning is to distinguish or decide.  So this verse is about our preferences, not God's commands, a definite difference.  The following verses fit more with doing everything to honor the Lord as is the remainder of the chapter.

            In the mean whilst Paul was writing this book, he was observing all of the Jewish feasts and holy-days, just as God commanded.  It is good that nothing is unclean, unless it causes us to stumble [v20], and that means placing anything above God.  This is then the difference, doing things that we prefer to do or not doing things that God commanded.

            “And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made” (Genesis 2:2-3).

            The Jews have been observing the seventh day since Adam, the seventh day of the week is Saturday, not Sunday.  We worship on Sun-day because of the Romans, because they worshiped the Sun, so the Emperor Constantine wanted to hedge his bets and worshiped God as well as the Sun.  Saturday worship is enshrined in one of the Ten Commandments, to keep the seventh day holy.

            The Passover commemorates the time when God saved His people in Egypt, and God cammanded His people to keep a remembrance of the event.  It is no coincidence that Jesus made His sacrifice, once and for all on the anniversary of that event, because Jesus became our Passover.  We should therefore continue in the observance of the Passover, and NOT Easter, which is another pagan feast of Esteros the goddess of fertility (from whence we get the name of the hormone 'Estrogen'

            I could go on dealing with each 'ordained' feast but I hope you get what I am talking about, if we are followers of Jesus and if He is the model for our lives, should we not also observe the holy days that He observed?

            Matthew 5:17 says:

            “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfil them."

             

            • Ok Dr. Derek.

              Thanks much again for the reply.

              Please continue to educate me. A Christian once gave me a book, "The Protestant Dilemma", where it gives evidences that the Early Church really observed the Sabbath. Even the Church Fathers, the successors to the Apostles observed this. It also tells that the Law cannot be dissolved in the time of Grace. What are your thoughts about this?

              What can you say about the overall message of Galatians. Theologians argue that its message tells us that we are not under the Law to observe this and that.

              Thanks again in advance.

              • No problem Francis, it is always a pleasure to discuss scripture.  Firstly I want to point out that I am not trying to convince anyone by arguing this point, I am merely explaining what I believe and ask the question, are we in disobedience by not observing these holy days and feasts and by observing other man-made ones?

                So, to your questions.  Yes the early church, as I have explained, celebrated and observed, no only the Sabbath but also all of the other observance days.  Even the Gentiles (non-Jews) observed all of those days, just as Jesus had done.  However the word 'Sabbath' does not mean the Seventh Day, it means 'a rest', as in 'on the seventh day God rested', so the seventh day was a day of rest, Sabbath.  In Judaism the term 'Sabbath' is also applied to other holy and feast days, and when those days fall on a Saturday it actually called a double Sabbath.  So yes they observed the Sabbath but also the seventh day of the week.

                The Epistle of Galatians is one of the most widely misunderstood books of the Bible.

                When Paul returned to Antioch after his first missionary journey, he received reports that the fledgling in Galatia had fallen into error. A group of Judaizers (Jews who tried to make living under the Mosaic Law a requirement of the Christian faith) had to some extent gained some influence in the churches of Galatia.  Now what Paul was talking about the law of God, which does not change, but the ceremonial laws of the Jews, circumcision, abstinence of eating pork (which was a ordinance of health,  as pork goes off quickly, especially in the summer climate), and the many other laws that were given whilst the Hebrew nation was in the wilderness.  Many of these are listen in the Epistle.  We see this in Galatians 6:15:

                 "For neither circumcision counts for anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation."

                So now we come to the most misquoted verse in the Bible, about being a New Creation, in 2 Corinthians 5:17:

                "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation.[or creature] The old has passed away; behold, the new has come."

                Many Christians also point to this verse as proof that the law has gone, obsolete.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  Firstly this verse does not mention the law, secondly it re-states that we have salvation in Christ, our great advocate.  Why would Paul tell us that the law had 'passed away' when Jesus Himself told us that this was not the case [Matthew 5:17]?  In verse 18 Jesus warned us about teaching otherwise.  If we examine a literal translation of 2 Corinthians 5:17 (Youngs Literal Translation - YLT) we see a better meaning:

                17 "So that if any one [is] in Christ -- [he is] a new creature; the old things did pass away, lo, become new have the all things."

                It is plain from the literal translation that the verse is not about the law but the way we should act, as if we were a new creation, which we are once we accept Christ.  We should act as if we were born anew and all our sins (transgressions) of the law have been expunged, wiped away, "become new."  Logically, if the law has been abolished, there could be no sin, not for Christians and not for unbelievers; no law = no crime, no sin.  That obviously is not the case, and do not forget that 'The Law' includes the Ten Commandments, and who could ever say that those commandments have been abolished?

                Let me use an analogy.  If we are driving at 100 miles an hour and we get stopped, we have broken the law, we are then under the law.  We go to court and plead guilty, we pay a fine (Jesus' sacrifice that paid the penalty for us), and then are no longer under the law.  That is until we break the law again, then we are again under the law.  So we can see from this that we are only NOT under the law when we are without sin, and as 1 John 1:8 tells us very clearly:

                 "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."

    • I agree with that, Derek. I believe organized, Denominational Churches and their clergy are the #1 cause of a negative self-image, and God-image in our faith.

  • The world will live like the world. We must ask the Lord to search our own hearts and repent of our own individual sin that keeps us from being free to be and do all that the Lord asks of us. Father, please make Your Church shine bright, forgive us for not even really caring about the lost around us or the sin that so easily entangles us in our own day to day lives. Give us a burning desire for Your truth, THE TRUTH that is quick and powerful, sharper than any two edged sword. We desperately need You. In Jesus' name Amen.

    • Amen.....very well said Sister Annette!

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