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The Two Witnesses of the Last Days

The mainstream teaching on the two witnesses of Revelation teaches that they will be literal people sent down from heaven to preach to the world for a literal 1260 days or 3 and a half years. And the mainstream view is that the two last day witnesses will be either Moses, Enoch or Elijah. But here I do not follow the crowd, I follow the truth, wether it is popular or not. Now one thing we must remember when studying the book of Revelation is that it is full of symbolic languages. So we are to automatically take everything as literal.

Who are the beast of Revelation 13? Are they literal beast forcing people to take the mark? Who is the whore of Babylon? Is it a literal woman riding a literal beast? No, they are symbolic, and point to something else, just like a lot of Revelation does.

Let's start off by exposing a couple of BIG problems with this mainstream view of Moses, Elijah or Enoch being the two witnesses. Where are Moses, Enoch and Elijah right now? The are in heaven with God and Jesus Christ right? So what does that mean? It means they are now in their glorified IMMORTAL state.

Please understand that important point. No one can dwell in heaven, in the precense of Jesus and God the Father without being in a glorified immortal state. And yet what does Revelation 11 say  will happen to the two witnesses? Revelation 11:7-8. Read.

So Revelation confims that the last days two witnesses will be KILLED. This proves beyond doubt that the witnesses CANNOT be either Moses, Enoch or Elijah, because they are now immortal and cannot be killed. 

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  • A most excellent point, in stating that the "two witnesses" cannot be literally Moses and Elijah, being already glorified (see Mt. of Trasnfiguration), and that they cannot be killed.  That statement is irrefutable.

    So the only question remains, what does it mean, and so let's take a look:

    Revelation is filled with Symbols, and allusion to OT/NT events. Is the "Jezebel" [Revelation 2:20] in Revelation a single woman/person like unto the OT wife of King Ahab, or the same person? No, one is type and the other anti-type. The anti-type is always greater in scope. The type is usually physical/natural/local and the anti-type spiritual/global:

    Howbeit that [was] not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. - 1 Corinthians 15:46

    My "two witness":

    To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. - Acts 10:43

    But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; - Romans 3:21

    Furthermore, a "witness" in Scripture is not always a person or people, but can be many things:

    And he said, For [these] seven ewe lambs shalt thou take of my hand, that they may be a witness unto me, that I have digged this well. - Genesis 21:30

    Now therefore come thou, let us make a covenant, I and thou; and let it be for a witness between me and thee. - Genesis 31:44

    And Laban said, This heap [is] a witness between me and thee this day. Therefore was the name of it called Galeed; - Genesis 31:48

    This heap [be] witness, and [this] pillar [be] witness, that I will not pass over this heap to thee, and that thou shalt not pass over this heap and this pillar unto me, for harm. - Genesis 31:52

    If it be torn in pieces, [then] let him bring it [for] witness, [and] he shall not make good that which was torn. - Exodus 22:13

    And Moses laid up the rods before the LORD in the tabernacle of witness. - Numbers 17:7

    And it came to pass, that on the morrow Moses went into the tabernacle of witness; and, behold, the rod of Aaron for the house of Levi was budded, and brought forth buds, and bloomed blossoms, and yielded almonds. - Numbers 17:8

    Now therefore write ye this song for you, and teach it the children of Israel: put it in their mouths, that this song may be a witness for me against the children of Israel. - Deuteronomy 31:19

    And it shall come to pass, when many evils and troubles are befallen them, that this song shall testify against them as a witness; for it shall not be forgotten out of the mouths of their seed: for I know their imagination which they go about, even now, before I have brought them into the land which I sware. - Deuteronomy 31:21

    Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee. - Deuteronomy 31:26

    But [that] it [may be] a witness between us, and you, and our generations after us, that we might do the service of the LORD before him with our burnt offerings, and with our sacrifices, and with our peace offerings; that your children may not say to our children in time to come, Ye have no part in the LORD. - Joshua 22:27

    Therefore said we, that it shall be, when they should [so] say to us or to our generations in time to come, that we may say [again], Behold the pattern of the altar of the LORD, which our fathers made, not for burnt offerings, nor for sacrifices; but it [is] a witness between us and you. - Joshua 22:28

    And the children of Reuben and the children of Gad called the altar [Ed]: for it [shall be] a witness between us that the LORD [is] God. - Joshua 22:34

    And Joshua said unto all the people, Behold, this stone shall be a witness unto us; for it hath heard all the words of the LORD which he spake unto us: it shall be therefore a witness unto you, lest ye deny your God. - Joshua 24:27

    And the king called for Jehoiada the chief, and said unto him, Why hast thou not required of the Levites to bring in out of Judah and out of Jerusalem the collection, [according to the commandment] of Moses the servant of the LORD, and of the congregation of Israel, for the tabernacle of witness? - 2 Chronicles 24:6

    And thou hast filled me with wrinkles, [which] is a witness [against me]: and my leanness rising up in me beareth witness to my face. - Job 16:8

    And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them. - Isaiah 19:20

    What thing shall I take to witness for thee? what thing shall I liken to thee, O daughter of Jerusalem? what shall I equal to thee, that I may comfort thee, O virgin daughter of Zion? for thy breach [is] great like the sea: who can heal thee? - Lamentations 2:13

    And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. - Matthew 24:14

    Our fathers had the tabernacle of witness in the wilderness, as he had appointed, speaking unto Moses, that he should make it according to the fashion that he had seen. - Acts 7:44

    Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness. - Acts 14:17

    Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days. - James 5:3

    And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. - 1 John 5:8

    To understand Revelation, one needs the Holy Spirit of God, prayer, and previous instruction from God, even line upon line, for the Bible identifies the symbols itself. It is also helpful to have a basic understanding of the structure of Revelation, and of Daniel.

    The context reveals, not merely in typology, but also in its prophecy, that the "two witnesses" are the Law and the Prophets

    But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; - Romans 3:21

    These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. - Revelation 11:6

    Furthermore, the two great Cherubim that Solomon made, were made of Olive wood (1 Kings 6:23-28), covered in Gold, and these stood by the side of the Ark, as witnesses representing:

    Revelation 11:6 [in the very context of the judgments of the trumpets beginning in Revelation 8:2, and more particularly of 5th [1st woe], 6th [2nd woe, beginning in Revelation 9:3, with interims], and 7th [third woe, coming of Christ Jesus] Trumpets], refers back to the OT, "power to shut heaven" in the days of Moses [a promise for breaking the covenant] and of Elijah [fulfilled in his day for 3 1/2 years]:

    Moses:

    And [then] the LORD'S wrath be kindled against you, and he shut up the heaven, that there be no rain, and that the land yield not her fruit; and [lest] ye perish quickly from off the good land which the LORD giveth you. - Deuteronomy 11:17

    Elijah:

    "When heaven is shut up, and there is no rain, ..." - 1 Kings 8:35

    "When the heaven is shut up, and there is no rain, ..."; - 2 Chronicles 6:26

    If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people; - 2 Chronicles 7:13

    See also 1 Kings 17:1,14,15, 18:1,41,44,45

    But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land; - Luke 4:25

    Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months. - James 5:17

    Revelation 11:6, also refers to the days of Moses in the days of Egypt, during the time just before the Exodus, when it says, "have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.":

    And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe also these two signs, neither hearken unto thy voice, that thou shalt take of the water of the river, and pour [it] upon the dry [land]: and the water which thou takest out of the river shall become blood upon the dry [land]. - Exodus 4:9

    And the LORD spake unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Take thy rod, and stretch out thine hand upon the waters of Egypt, upon their streams, upon their rivers, and upon their ponds, and upon all their pools of water, that they may become blood; and [that] there may be blood throughout all the land of Egypt, both in [vessels of] wood, and in [vessels of] stone. - Exodus 7:19

    And the fish that [was] in the river died; and the river stank, and the Egyptians could not drink of the water of the river; and there was blood throughout all the land of Egypt. - Exodus 7:21

    For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that [there is] none like me in all the earth. - Exodus 9:14

    Moses and Elijah, in Type, representing the Law and the Prophets.

    Revelation 11, deals with a time period of 1,260 day/years, 538 AD - 1798 AD, as Numbers 14:34; Ezekiel 4:6, etc reveal. it is the same time frame found throughout - Daniel 7:25, 12:7; Revelation 11:2-3, 12:6,14, 13:5 and also referenced in Luke 21:24 "times of the Gentiles", in type and anti-type.

    The 3 1/2 days [Revelation 11:9,11] is 3 1/2 years by the same [1793 AD - 1797 AD, just before 1798 AD, ending the 1,260 and 1,290 of Daniel], Numbers 14:34; Ezekiel 4:6, etc. it is not the same time period as the 1260 days, for it is obvious that 1260 days do not equal 3 1/2 days. The latter is a portion of the other greater, which itself is a portion of a greater still [2300 - Daniel 8:14,26].

    The "Temple of God" is God's own people, which were trampled underfoot, for 1,260 years in the dark ages, persecuted in the wilderness.

    The Beast in Revelation 11, is a Nation/Kingdom/State power, as identified in all of Scripture, see Daniel 7, 8, etc.

    Notice Revelation 11, speaks of "the great city" which is "spiritually called" "Sodom and Egypt". This was Atheistically led France during the reign of the French Revolution and Reign of Terror. It alone fulfills Egypt "spiritually", see Exodus 5, hostilely, openly denying the LORD God, refusing His Commandments, and Prophet, etc. It also fulfills Sodom, in its liscentiousness, installing the goddess [a prostitute] of 'reason'.

    The "street", not plural, the singular, is the broad open place [like a plaza, usually before a Gate, or at the Gate, or Temple] in Scripture which is generally the central place of judgment, and of legal setting.

    And all the people gathered themselves together as one man into the street that [was] before the water gate; and they spake unto Ezra the scribe to bring the book of the law of Moses, which the LORD had commanded to Israel. - Nehemiah 8:1

    And he read therein before the street that [was] before the water gate from the morning until midday, before the men and the women, and those that could understand; and the ears of all the people [were attentive] unto the book of the law. - Nehemiah 8:3

    When I went out to the gate through the city, [when] I prepared my seat in the street! - Job 29:7

    Daniel 9, refers to "the street" [Daniel 9:25], which we see referred to in Ezra 7, wherein the Law of God was able to be executed once more.

    Can these "two witnesses" die in the Legal Halls of France then [or even again, aws history repeats, of America, today]? Yes:

    And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter. - Isaiah 59:14

    Scripture states that the "Law" and Commandments" are Truth [Psalms 119:142,151].

    God's two witnesses, the word/law and prophecy are a light, a candlestick:
    NUN. Thy word [is] a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. - Psalm 119:105

    To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them. - Isaiah 8:20

    We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: - 2 Peter 1:19

    As we have seen in Zechariah 4, of which Revelation 11 is citing:

    Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This [is] the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts. - Zechariah 4:6

    In France, they truly, even rebelliously, rejoiced at the slaying of God's holy word, which is a type of Jesus, and thus Crucified him there in their legislative halls. It was not long after, that God brought them back to life, and exalted them before them all, historically documented -

    "... The world, for the first time, heard an assembly of men, born and educated in civilization, and assuming the right to govern one of the finest of the European nations, uplift their united voice to deny the most solemn truth which man’s soul receives, and renounce unanimously the belief and worship of a Deity. ..." [Sir Walter Scott, Life of Napoleon, Vol. 1, Ch. 17; Page 239]

    “... France is the only nation in the world concerning which the authentic record survives, that as a nation she lifted her hand in open rebellion against the Author of the universe. Plenty of blasphemers, plenty of infidels, there have been, and still continue to be, in England, Germany, Spain, and elsewhere; but France stands apart in the world’s history as the single state which, by the decree of her Legislative Assembly, pronounced that there was no God, and of which the entire population of the capital, and a vast majority elsewhere, women as well as men, danced and sang with joy in accepting the announcement.”—Blackwood’s Magazine, November, 1870

  • I agree that the two witnesses are figurative, not literal.  Just as the two olive trees in Zechariah chapter 4 are not two literal trees.

    I think in both passages they are the faithful of the old and new covenants.

    • Okay, that is right sir. The problem here is that I cannot pass over my belief about anything that I have it already to just paste it. Now I tried to make some Moore time to come here for friendly debating. 

  • In Deuteronomy 19:15 a rule is given that it takes at least two witnessess to convict a person of a crime.  The two witnessess in Revelation probably are symbolic for all members of the true church.  

    • Hello yes that makes sense. Jesus sent them out in twos. Luke 10:1

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