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All The World Will See Him

"And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn" -- Zech. 12;10.

In the Old Testament, God is speaking of the last days when the Lord returns, and He says, "they shall look upon me whom they have pierced". God is telling us in the Old Testament that He's Jesus. And in Rev. 1;8, Jesus says He's the "Almighty".

There will come a day when the Lord will return. And everyone will know who He is. The Jews will know that He's Jesus, and the Gentiles will know that He's God (as in one in the same person).

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    • Bible scholars say the trinity is not in the bible.

      New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1977 Edition, Vol. 13, p. 1021 -- The first use of the Latin word "trinitas" (trinity) with reference to God, is found in Tertulian's writings (about 213 A.D.) He was the first to use the term "persons" (plural) in a Trinitarian context.

      Encyclopedia Americana, 1957 Edition, Vol. 27, p. 69 -- The word "Trinity" is not in Scripture. The term "persons" (plural) is not applied in Scripture to the Trinity.

      The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: "The formulation 'one God in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective." - (1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.

      Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel: "The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher's [Plato, fourth century B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions."
      - (Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachatre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.

      World Book Encyclopedia, 1984 Edition, Vol. T, p. 363 -- Belief in Father, Son and Holy Ghost was first defined by the earliest general council of churches. This was the First Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D.

      New International Encyclopedia, Vol. 22 p. 476 -- The Catholic faith is this; We worship one God in Trinity, but there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son and another of the Holy Ghost. The Glory equal -- the Majesty co-eternal. The doctrine is not found in its fully developed form in the Scriptures. Modern theology does not seek to find it in the Old Testament. At the time of the Reformation the Protestant Church took over the doctrine of the Trinity without serious examination.

      Life Magazine, October 30, 1950, Vol. 29, No. 18, p. 51 -- The Catholics made this statement concerning their doctrine of the Trinity, to defend the dogma of the assumption of Mary, in an article written by Graham Greene: "Our opponents sometimes claim that no belief should be held dogmatically which is not explicitly stated in Scripture ... But the PROTESTANT CHURCHES have themselves accepted such dogmas as THE TRINITY, for which there is NO SUCH PRECISE AUTHORITY In the Gospels."

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    • If you don't accept the reality of a Triune God- God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, you are in disagreement with most of Christianity and most members here. This is part of our Faith Statement, as it is in most Denomenations. See: John 10:30.

      • The terms "trinity" and "triune" are pagan and foreign to the Bible in reference to God. The Bible doesn't use the term "God the Son", either. It says "Son of God". The Bible makes a distiction between Fatherhood and Sonship, and the term "God the Son" would be an oxymoron and confusion of position and terminology.

        The Trinity didn't exist until after the time of the apostles, and it's a teaching that's based on Greek philosophy and pagan worship of triune gods. It's a mix of paganism with Christianity.

        The reason it's so common isn't because it's biblical truth, it's because it was forced into acceptance. After the Catholic church adopted the Trinity, it persecuted and killed tens of thousands of people who wouldn't accept it, and destroyed whatever writings they found that were not in agreement with the Trinity. And so, over the centuries it became common and people accepted it as normal and as biblical truth, being deceived into believing a Trinity that doesn't even exist with God.

        In 1 Timothy 3:16, in reference to Jesus, it says that "God was manifest in the flesh". This tells us that Jesus is God Himself who was manifest in the flesh. John 1:1 & 14 says the same thing. It not only says that the "Word" was with God, but also that the "Word" was God. Not a pre-existing or eternal Son, but God Himself. Then in verse 14, it says that the "Word", which was God, was made flesh, and dwelt among us as the only begotten of the Father, meaning the Son. So this tells us that God became flesh and dwelt among us as the Son.

        So the Son is also God Himself in the flesh as a man. Or in other words, the Son is also God Himself in human form as a man.

        Even Old Testament prophecy tells us this. In Isaiah 9:6, it says that the Son is also the "Mighty God" and the "Everlasting Father". So the Bible actually teaches us that the Son and God the Father are one in the same person, the same being. But just revealed in different ways with different titles. Throughout the Old Testament, God always used different names and titles to reveal different things about Him.

        But in the last days, in the New Testament, God revealed Himself to us through His Son, Jesus Christ, and He revealed His fullness to us through Him, and He revealed His name Jesus to us through Him. Because Colossians 2:9 says that "In Him dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily". So God revealed all His fulness in physical bodily form in Christ. And Hebrews 1:3 says that Jesus inherited His name. So the Father's name is Jesus, which He passed on to the Son, and revealed to us through Him. Which is His saving name. Because Jesus, or Yeshuah, means "YHWH-Savior", or "God-Savior". And can be interpreted as "God the Savior" or "God our Savior" or "God my Savior", depending on how you use it in a sentence. Jesus is who His name says He is.

        As it is written, "looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ". Jesus is the great God and Savior who will return. So like I said, when the Lord returns, evryone will know who He is. The Jews will know that He's Jesus, and the Gentiles will know that He's God. As in one in the same person.

        And the Bible actually does tell us how many persons God is made of. In Hebrews 1:3, it refers to God as "person", in the singular, as in one, not "persons", as in more than one. So there is no Trinity with God. The Bible teaches that God is one single individual and undivided God with no plurality of persons.

        So please consider these things and choose God's word over man made doctrine.


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        • Squeaky, would you please stop. The people here are my friends. They're good God-loving and God-fearing people. Please show them respect and respect the CLM site.

          Thank you and God bless,


      • The bible also says a man and his wife are one.

        • Not the way Jesus and God are one. They are one in the same person. A man and his wife are not one in the same person. PLease read the reply I wrote to Pastor Rolf Anderson.

          • I see Biblical truth throughout your response, Brother. I believe, and choose to continue to believe, that God the Father has 3 parts, the Father, the Son Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior, and a fragment of the Father that indwells in us the Holy Spirit. When I read God's Word, in total, it agrees with this teaching and belief system for me.

            A recent trend on this site has been to list Scriptures, just parts of some, and put them in order to attempt to prove a point. This CAN be used to try and prove things true that are false, and vice versa. I encourage members to take the total meaning behind the entire Scripture passage, and read the motivations of the writer into what they are saying also to determine truth.

          • Jesus is not God.

            John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
            Ephesians 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

            Jesus didn't know the divine mystery. If Jesus had been God, John 4:22 would have been a lie, and God can not lie.

            John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
            John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
            1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

            The trinity doctrine contradicts those verses. That is why churches that teach the trinity discourage studying the bible, declaring that church tradition is of higher authority than the word of God.

            • You misunderstood. That is why I pointed out scripture that show that there is no Trinity with God. The Trinity is a teaching based on Greek philosophy and pagan worship of triune gods. It's a mix of paganism with Christianity. That's why I'm presenting scripture to try and help fellow believers get back to the truth. So yes, Jesus indeed is God. This is what God tells us in His word. Otherwise, if Jesus and God were two separate persons, then they would be two separate Gods, but they're not, they're one in the same person, the same being. So Jesus IS the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They are not separate persons. They are all one in the same person. God is all of these all by Himself. God is our all and our everything. He is God alone and God above all things. Jesus is God all in all.

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