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I wrote this up a couple weeks ago. I thought other members might like to see it, and discuss forgiveness; how it's affected them in their own lives and their thoughts on it.



June 3, 2012

Matt 18: 23-27 Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven. Therefore, the Kingdom of Heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him 10,000 talents. But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made. The servant fell down before him , saying: “Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.” Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt. But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and grabbed him by the throat, saying, “Pay me what you owe!” So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, “Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.” And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt. So when his fellow servants saw what he had done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that he had done. Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, “You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. Should you not also have compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you? And hs master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him.”

“So, my Heavenly father will do to each of you {Deliver you to the torturers, or withdraw spiritual protection from you and allow satan to have his way with you}, if each of you, from his heart , does not forgive his brother his trespasses.”

            This is a snapshot of our Redemption. “When the Blood isn’t sufficient to forgive others, then there’s not enough for me; it’s rejecting the Blood of Jesus for others. We CANNOT harbor unforgiveness, or our Spiritual protection from satan’s attacks will be withdrawn” (Pastor Mac Hammond)

Definition of Forgiveness: (Websters) To pardon or release from obligation or debt.

Isaiah 43:25 (Vs. 14: Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, The Holy One of Israel)

“I, even I, am He who blots out your transgressions for My own sake; And I will not remember your sins.”

            The Lord God, who forgives our sins thru Jesus Christ, our Savior, has to forget those sins so they no longer can stand between Him and us. God cannot be in the presence of iniquity.

Luke 17:3  (Jesus speaking to the Disciples) “Take heed to yourselves, If your brother sins against you (some manuscripts omit “against you” which changes it a bit) , rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. And if he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day returns to you, saying “I repent,” you shall forgive him.

            The process goes like this: The offense-confront-apology-forgiveness-forget.

I believe unconditional forgiveness is absolutely necessary for every offense ever taken against you in your life. The last verse, which includes a confrontation and repentance on the offenders part is the ideal, and we should strive for it. In all situations when we are ABLE to confront the offender, we have the scriptural obligation to attempt to do this. When to do this would put us in mortal danger-well, we need to talk to the Lord about such circumstances. I don’t believe the Lord would have us put ourselves in jeopardy.

            When we confront the offender, we are not in control over whether they apologize, or repent for their offense, but we are in charge of forgiveness, so we need to do so, and then forget (or, put behind us).

            In secular counseling, forgiveness is often the goal in many situations, as non-forgiveness allows the offense to continue on, poisoning our contentment and health thru developing resentments, and resentments are considered one of the primary reasons for destroyed relationships as well as causing us to dwell on the negative, and put forth anger and even hate towards others. Resentments are taken so seriously that one treatment center I was involved with based their whole therapy on forgiving resentments, believing “Resentments are the #1 reason alcoholics start drinking again.”

            In 1976, I had been married 2 years and was in the ARMY. My best friend in it (went thru and shared a tent in basic and hung out together, sharing ourselves with each other; guys can get pretty tight in situations like that), well he decided to get out early, and my wife decided she wanted to be with him more than me, so she deserted me and left with him, taking my 9 month old child with her. She ended up with the house and all our property, and I was stuck in the ARMY for 2 ½ more years, obsessing on my resentments  (I was not saved yet), trying to drown them out with drugs and alcohol and planning to kill him when I got out. My feelings and beliefs ruined those years, nearly killing me and did not get resolved until I was saved in 1979 and learned about forgiveness. When I got out, I kept far from them, not trusting my behavior if I was near them. Once I got a grip on myself, and the Lord worked hard with me to forgive them ( a process that took some time, and counseling) it was like this huge weight was lifted from my shoulders. I wrote her a long letter telling her I was now a believer in Jesus Christ and had gone thru a long process to forgive them, and believe I had. I have not communicated with him, the man who left with her, because he is not saved, and violence could very well happen. I have forgiven him in my heart, and for all intents and purposes forgotten he was ever in my life. She wrote back accepting my forgiveness and another weight came off my shoulders. She also asked I forgive her, which of course I did. I believe now that, even though I’m discussing it now for an example, I’ve put it completely behind me. An interesting aside here is that one of their grandchildren (and I see my ex-wives other 4 children by him as kind of my step-children, and I interact with them considerably. We now all live within 5 miles of each other) passed away as an infant. He was at the funeral. I didn’t look for him, and didn’t really think about it, and didn’t see him at all.  The whole funeral was in a small room, maybe 50 people, and I think the Lord intervened supernaturally to keep us apart, since I had forgiven him, there was no need to possibly create a problem at the funeral as he still has anger in him (I’ve heard) as well as fearing me based on the way I was before. Since then, he’s left her for her best friend, moved to Mo. and I’ve moved in with our daughter. We are good friends and she has me over for Christmas most years. I even gave thought to getting together again with her, but decided not to, as even though it’s all behind us, and we get along well, I don’t know if I could trust her well enough to be in another marriage. (Gee, I hope she doesn't read this!) Perhaps that, too, will change. I frequently am surprised by the direction the Lord leads me to. I do know that without forgiveness, my living here with my daughter wouldn’t be possible (and with my level of income I haven’t other good alternatives) and my whole life wouldn’t be nearly as good as it is now.

Praise the Lord for Forgiveness!!!     

Pastor Rolf    

 What have you experienced, or what do you think? Please feel free to be open about anything here!

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  • For me ... I had to come to this revelation on my own ... I always knew I should forgive, but would habor ill feelings against others for a long time ... then one day, out of the blue, it finally hit me ... God WILL NOT forgive me if I cant forgive other's! How simple is that, but it took forever to learn and apply.

    Today when I am offended, like today, perfect example, I forgive quickly!

    Forgiveness is not for the other person, it is for us.  In a blog I read, its so true, it will bring torment. I dont need that! I have other things that me and the Lord are working on that bring torment ... fear is huge with me ... but as with forgiveness, I will learn that lesson too and be able to apply it when needed.

    Great testimony ... thanks for sharing!

    • Forgiveness is very important in believer’s life to stand as believers and disciples and to fulfill Holy God’s will in our lives. Without forgiveness no one can remain as believer or disciple. Forgiveness also ends anger. Forgiveness builds relationships as body of Holy Savior. Forgiveness is a part of redemption. Lord Jesus was asked “How many times a man need to be forgiven” and Peter guessed it as 7 times but
      Our Savior Lord Jesus told to forgive 77 times, which is more than enough for a person to forgive.

      77 times is 77 times but it’s not unlimited times because men and women have patience to forgive according to earthly standards with Heavenly Father’s Compassion. Why does a person need to be forgiven more than 77 times? In Genesis, The Holy God swept All the world because the forgiveness for that generation was over and they tested Holy God’s patience. Lord Jesus used the number 77 instead Of any other number because it is related to curse in Old Testament. In Old Testament, Cain murdered his own brother and he was wrong before
      The Holy God but Cain was not humble but intelligent enough to ask The Holy God for forgiveness and Cain received forgiveness. Then Cain wanted to secure his own life Through the protection of The Holy God and God said “Cain avenged 7 times”. In New Testament, Peter knew His Bible and used the
      same number What The Holy God used for Cain’s protection. The Holy God also said “Lamech avenged 77 times”.
      Genesis 4:24 If Cain is avenged seven times, then Lamech seventy-seven times.

      The Holy God can forgive unlimited times depending upon the people’s humbleness. But for The Holy God on this earth has limitation, that is maximum of man’s Earthly life. If a man lives for 80 years, The Holy Savior can forgive only 80 years and this is maximum. No one can be forgiven on judgment day.
      Judging day Is for judging people’s sins, not for forgiveness. But Holy Savior does not forgive always all the years man is living on this earth. Man is forgiven when man Want to stop sinning and willing to live a righteous life. The Holy God would not forgive who continuously and consciously sin. The Pharisees and
      Teachers Of the law were not forgiven because they knew The Word of God and still they were not living according to it. Judas Iscariot may have not forgiven because He was not willing to stop sinning and he sinned against The Holy Savior. The woman caught in adultery was wrong but Lord Jesus Christ forgave her because she was willing to come out of her sinful life and Lord Jesus told "Go and sin no more". Forgiveness is more given to those who want to "Go and sin no more".
      Matthew 23:3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
      Matthew 23:13 Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces.
      You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.


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